Low Energy Nuclear Reactions from Italy?

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Anyone been following Andrea Rossi's E-CAT progress? He has some hydrogen and some nickel powder and a 'secret catalyst' and he heats it up with a KW or so, and after an hour, he unplugs it and it keeps putting out a couple KW for a couple hours. The traditional physicists all think its snake oil because they cant figure it out, but A Dr Zawodny at NASA thinks its something. It sure would shake up the balance of cash flow from North America to North Africa. Note that this message has hints of science, physics, economics, but hopefully, no politics.

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The traditional physicists all think its snake oil because they cant figure it out

The history of science is strewn with examples of arrogance finally having to give way to paradigm shifting breakthroughs. Not to say that by far most snake oil isn't just... snake oil.

Chuck Baird

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One guy that observed the demo said it was putting out 2.5KW for an hour after they shut off the input, and no one could figure out how to get that amount of power using a chemical reaction. There was an amp clamp on the hot wire from the ac plug, but the skeptic said they were bootlegging in the extra watts up the third wire ground. After it runs for a while, they find copper mixed in with the nickel. Like the hydrogen nucleus jumped into the nickel nucleus and made some copper and releaed a bunch of heat. I understand ohms law, but this seems a lot farther out than that. Transmuting metals. Lead into Gold. Alchemy. Philosopher's Stone.

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Wouldn't trust Italians myself....

John Samperi

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Wouldn't trust Italians myself....

Not unless it's something you eat. They're pretty good at that.

Chuck Baird

"The highest honor in farting should be the 'Pull-It Surprise'" - Megan Amran

http://www.cbaird.org

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Well, if it puts out 6 times as much as you put in, it should help you reduce your cooking expense, heating expense, water heating expense.

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Think larger.
http://www.teslasociety.com/biography.htm, Wardenclyffe tower.

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js wrote:
Wouldn't trust Italians myself....

Now, John, you are Italian and you are trustworthy! :lol:

Carl W. Livingston, KC5OTL
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This is regularly reported about in the specialist tabloid for Swedish Engineers.

The scientific problem here is that "secret catalyst". A proper science report describes in detail how the experiment was done, to the point where other scientists can repeat the experiment and verify the results.

So, going meta-meta and use a physics analogy on this physics problem: Until they open that box for all to see we can not tell if the cat is alive or dead (i.e. it is snake oil or not). (Yes, I know I am abusing the original analogy...)

"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington]

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OK Bob, I will declare myself as a skeptic! However I just want to clear a couple of issues. In your first post you say

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He has some hydrogen

100mL, 1L, 100L,10KL ???
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and he heats it up with a KW or so,

You don't say for how long and the "or so" could be 3 or 4 or even 10 KW for an hour Ie. 10KWH
We need KWH IN & KWH out!

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Well, if it puts out 6 times as much as you put in, it should help you reduce your cooking expense, heating expense, water heating expense.

Where did the figure of 6 times come from.

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keeps putting out a couple KW

Radiated heat or electrical energy? DC or AC?

Assuming it is an exothermic reaction of the chemicals, more energy needed to have gone into the reaction then comes out.
Any thermite will produce lots & lots of heat!

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It sure would shake up the balance of cash flow from North America to North Africa.

Does the US get it's majority of oil from Libya?

You are right the "material under discussion" would seem suitable, but I could be accused of turning a 12 yo into a skeptic and destroy their creative/inquiring mind.

Charles Darwin, Lord Kelvin & Murphy are always lurking about!
Lee -.-
Riddle me this...How did the serpent move around before the fall?

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It exists for quite some time now. So I have one simple question: why is not commercially available?

And please do not be too naive when you try to answer this question.

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