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1:Pcbway pcb prototype company

 

A chinese manufacturer that specialized in PCB over ten years.Price and delivery time is very good,they cooperate with DHL and get 20%discount.Usually 3-4days you can get the boards.Other express is also ok,like HongKong post.,It is much cheaper.

According to my experience,you can register pcbway to enjoy the 80%discount,and can get the free universal boards.Also they do so many activities to help you save the cost

 

2:OSH PARK pcb prototype company

You never think that in US that also have so cheap pcb prototype company.But with so cheap price their quality sometimes not very good.

The most unconfortable is that their website interface.But with so cheap price you cannot require more.

 

3:Olimex pcb prototype company

A company in Bulgaria,they are not only a pcb manufacturer,but also do the business of device and hardware.Their quality is also good,but to me their quotation maybe not very good.

 

 

4:4pcb pcb prototype company

I believe most of the engineer or hobbyist know the company and have ever bought their pcb boards.Their quality is good,and quotation is acceptable,So i donnot introducr more since everyone know the company.

 

 

 

 

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2:OSH PARK pcb prototype company

The most unconfortable is that their website interface.But with so cheap price you cannot require more.

 Really?  I think their website interface is absolutely brilliant!

 

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I think this is a funny short list, why only 4 ?

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Yeah... why isn't hackvana.com listed? That's where I get my pcbs made.

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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What about Chinese suppliers such as ITead? They are very cheap ($9.90 for 10 off, 5cm x 5cm), and the quality is OK:

 

http://www.itead.cc/open-pcb/pcb...

 

IIRC, Olimex doesn't supply PCBs any more. They are concentrating on their development systems.

Leon Heller G1HSM

Last Edited: Thu. Oct 22, 2015 - 10:08 AM
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One could fear that OP work for the 1. and add the rest so it don't look like spam.

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Well it is in the Marketplace so I decided to allow it. In a couple of weeks it will go. No big harm done.

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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I use OSH Park a lot. Have not found either quality problems OR difficulty with the web site. Web site is certainly not conventional, but it fits the purpose, and that makes it fine for me.

 

They do aggregate board orders onto larger panels, so there can be some delay for a panel to be filled before it goes to the fab. But, they have always met the specified shipping date to me from their facility. Fortunately, they are relatively close to me and I get US Postal deliveries next day.

 

Jim

Jim Wagner Oregon Research Electronics, Consulting Div. Tangent, OR, USA http://www.orelectronics.net

Last Edited: Thu. Oct 22, 2015 - 03:53 PM
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IIRC, Olimex doesn't supply PCBs any more. They are concentrating on their development systems.

According to their website, the shutdown on accepting new orders is temporary until they get caught up on existing orders and their own production.

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I normally attach a private PCB to a work PCB and pay the extra cost.

 

while ago used itead on advice of a colleague, all went fine for me. silkscreen and solder mask OK. no copper issues or anomalies seen. So if people ask I will recommend them. Only problem might delivery as that can take a while but that is a customes issue not a manufacturer issue.

 

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What can i say about PCBWAY.COM ?

The responce time to any questions and details its epic fast.All my questions were totally answered within minutes..

Also the guys working there can help to any problem you face like shipping,PCB design and everything !

totally satisfied , and more deals will come !

Wireless remote car device using hand movements:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uerWyUwLLBo

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I donnot like it,it is not concise,and cannot place order online and cannot check the price

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i have posted cheappest pcb manufacturer-2

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I didn't used before,please share your experience,Moderator

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oh,no,you can share your experience here to help other engineers.

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maybe you can try other company to enjoy the better experience

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you also purchased from pcbway?share the experience to other engineers

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[OSH Park] is not concise,and cannot place order online and cannot check the price

Huh?  I've ordered several boards from OSHPark.  All online, upload files, immediately showed price, AND preview pictures of what it's  going to look like (not quite a gerber viewer, but really useful as a sanity check.)

I supposed it could be considered sub-optimal that you have to upload design files before you can check the price, rather than having it quote based on size/etc, but their pricing model is so simple ($5/sqin) that that's not really needed.

 

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ROBORTDAVE,

 

You are starting to sound like a troll to me. If you are not, I suggest that you tone it down...

 

Ross

Moderator

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Most sites and PCBWAY have online price-calculator. You set the dimensions/layers and you go display the money value.

Wireless remote car device using hand movements:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uerWyUwLLBo

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i really like accutrace (in the USA)   http://pcb4u.com/a1ad77.asp

they usually have a full page advert in CCI, very good quality

proto deal is 2 layer HASL lead, up to 20 sq inch, 10 parts, $30 + $10 shipping (25 for fedex)  they usually offer 10 more for 1/2 price

 

http://www.elecrow.com/  has a pretty good deal if you need ENIG finish and can wait for china shipment. good quality

 

dangerousprototypes.com has  low cost stencil available, I have never used them so can't comment on quality.

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Lost my post ..... DAMN ! I can't help it but I really begin to hate this forum SW angry And I am such an easy going person. Hm hm.

 

I have an order out to PCBway. It doesn't go as easy as they say. But heck, different time zones, different languages .... I can say they do their best to iron out the problems that arise. And I do my best too. I hope it works out OK because for that pricing I don't even consider to etch my own.

 

I'll keep you posted (if this thread survives)

 

Nard

 

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Dragon broken ? http://aplomb.nl/TechStuff/Dragon/Dragon.html for how-to-fix tips

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Watch the blood pressure!

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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js wrote:

Watch the blood pressure!

I'll do.

Despite the fact that I had to go back another time to PCBway.

Their engineer considered my 100 x 100 mm PCB-design as 6 separate boards. So the price went to $ 88 ! It was $ 24.

So I explained that it's ONE design, ONE set of gerbers, Outline gerber says 100 x 100 mm, ... what else can I do ?

And I'll cut the boards in smaller pieces myself .... once they arrive.

 

I'll keep you posted

 

 

UPDATE

Although I sent one set of gerbers for my design, the engineer still sees it as a 6 panel design.

I will give it ONE more try, and then I am out.

 

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Dragon broken ? http://aplomb.nl/TechStuff/Dragon/Dragon.html for how-to-fix tips

Last Edited: Thu. Nov 26, 2015 - 04:26 PM
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Yeah; the low end vendors don't like the "batch things up and cut it apart yourself" technique.   Some are very explicit about this policy, others more vague.

The fact that there is no minimum board size is one of the things that makes OSHPark attractive.  I've had several boards done there that were less than 1 sq in.

 

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There is no mention of such a restriction on the site of PCBway.com, westfw.

As a last attempt I will interconnect the 6 sections. And see if that changes their mind.

I consider to add a picture of Marilyn Monroe on a not used section. Just for the fun of it.

 

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Ow, poor me.

I added Marilyn to the layout, I can print it ..... but no export to gerber. What a pitty. 

 

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Dragon broken ? http://aplomb.nl/TechStuff/Dragon/Dragon.html for how-to-fix tips

Last Edited: Thu. Nov 26, 2015 - 10:57 PM
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Maybe if you rotate each copy, and swap layers on some of them, such that there is no obvious duplication, you could slip it through.

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Nard, if you connect all the ground planes together on the edges of the PCB they might take it as 1 PCB.

We had to do that in the past with a european PCB fab that would make large panels and was afraid that the QA controllers would think the board we send was accidentally cut and items would get lost.

if the edge of the PCB was all copper then on the inside it would not matter.

 

What I find interesting is that the spammer that started this thread now is keeping his mouth shut as things get rough......

 

I know Itead did not have this problem. I made 1 10x5 pcb that was made up out of 5 boards and it was just produced as 1 board with 5 separate ground planes (I did not connect the edges as described above) had to cut them myself, but that was expected and is clearly stated in their overview.

 

Are you sure the photo does not show up on the soldermask layer?

If it was to be in copper I would expect it to be green like the copper layer color.

What we now a days tend to do with empty board space is to fill it with holes 0.9mm drill on 100mills spacing such that you can use it as a small proto board. They come in handy every now and then.

 

 

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I just got my PCB's from PCBWAY.com . Quality seems very good.And i also have some things to comment.

 

-Communication: I had some question before and after i order the PCB, the answers (via email) were fast.Very fast.

 

-Changes on order: The guys are up to any changes on Gerber files or whatever.Ofc if they dont start making them i guess.

 

-Time: My pcb were rdy and ship in 2 days !

 

-Shipping: I used HK post (cause my country has serious problem on boards with DHL)  and the PCB were in my hands on 10 days.

 

 

Some photo,not the best camera:

 

 

 

 

Wireless remote car device using hand movements:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uerWyUwLLBo

Last Edited: Fri. Nov 27, 2015 - 06:39 AM
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Thanks for the heads-up guys. Appreciated.

 

So I interconnected the designs with copper and silk (no, no silk stockings, Marilyn didn't make it), and now the design is accepted. Finally.

All that wasted energy ... oh well. I was very close to moving to another PCB maker.

 

So now I wait and see. Hope my boards will come in as rapid as yours, SavKokki !

 

Nard

 

 

Edit: for meslomp: no, Marilyn didn't want to be in silk, ....... nor copper.

On the serious side: Gerbers are vectors. Bitmap are pixels. Hence the problem.

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Dragon broken ? http://aplomb.nl/TechStuff/Dragon/Dragon.html for how-to-fix tips

Last Edited: Fri. Nov 27, 2015 - 02:19 PM
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Plons wrote:
I added Marilyn to the layout

A few of the holes/solder-pads seems to be in awkward positions. Marilyn needs horns? And one of the components is obviously PTT-mounted... [don't ask - either you get it or you don't, you dirty-minded engineers! ;-) ]

"He used to carry his guitar in a gunny sack, or sit beneath the tree by the railroad track. Oh the engineers would see him sitting in the shade, Strumming with the rhythm that the drivers made. People passing by, they would stop and say, "Oh, my, what that little country boy could play!" [Chuck Berry]

 

"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington] "Words represent concepts. Use the wrong words, communicate the wrong concept." [J Morin] "Persistence only goes so far if you set yourself up for failure." [Kartman]

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Yes, they are. I felt and still feel guilty.

 

The holes also look a bit like bullet-holes, so .... and no, .....we don't go there.

 

So *IF* I could have added Marilyn in copper ( but preferably in silk ), I would have sacrified one of the designs. For sure !

No holes in Marilyn !

heart  and kiss

 

Nard   devil

A GIF is worth a thousend words   She is called Rosa, lives at Mint17.3 https://www.linuxmint.com/

Dragon broken ? http://aplomb.nl/TechStuff/Dragon/Dragon.html for how-to-fix tips

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Plons wrote:
Marilyn in copper ( but preferably in silk )

Regardless of if it was intentional or not the double meaning there is wonderful, Nard!

"He used to carry his guitar in a gunny sack, or sit beneath the tree by the railroad track. Oh the engineers would see him sitting in the shade, Strumming with the rhythm that the drivers made. People passing by, they would stop and say, "Oh, my, what that little country boy could play!" [Chuck Berry]

 

"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington] "Words represent concepts. Use the wrong words, communicate the wrong concept." [J Morin] "Persistence only goes so far if you set yourself up for failure." [Kartman]

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Semi-relative question,

 

Can anyone recommend a Board house that also does assembly?  All SMD parts.  Looking for an extra quote or two.  Domestic and foreign, not being picky.

 

I already have quotes from Advanced Circuits and finer Circuits here in the states,

 

JIm

If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue! - Kartman

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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Hi Jim,

 

I have used sky-macau.com in the past. I think I posted about my experience with them earlier.

 

http://www.sky-macau.com/PCB_Ser...

 

Cheers,

 

Ross

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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Will have to send them a set of gerbers and a BOM and see what happens.  Thanks!

 

JIm

If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue! - Kartman

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

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I think I posted about my experience with them earlier.

Good, bad or indifferent? May need some similar services myself in the NY.

John Samperi

Ampertronics Pty. Ltd.

www.ampertronics.com.au

* Electronic Design * Custom Products * Contract Assembly

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Read the thread that includes this post and photo.

 

http://www.avrfreaks.net/comment...

 

I made sure that my design used all parts that he has in stock... that way I didn't have to go the "buy this specialty part for me" route.

 

Cheers,

 

Ross

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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I am sure I will have to go the "buy this specialty part for me".  Usually happens that way

 

Jim

If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue! - Kartman

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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Or... you buy and supply it plus 10% extras... everyone loses bits on the floor cheeky

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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10% is a bargain as the places I deal with want 20% extra

 

Jim

If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue! - Kartman

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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I am going from memory... don't trust it... I don't. devil

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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sorry to reply late,these days i am learning html,css and jacascript.yes,i want to check the price before upload the file.i really think their interface can be better

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SavKokki wrote:
Most sites and PCBWAY have online price-calculator. You set the dimensions/layers and you go display the money value.
sorry to reply you late,these days i am learning html,css and javascript,yes,most time their service is very good,i receive my boards usually need 6days,sometimes they hold the activity and the price is good

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gskinner wrote:

i really like accutrace (in the USA)   http://pcb4u.com/a1ad77.asp

they usually have a full page advert in CCI, very good quality

proto deal is 2 layer HASL lead, up to 20 sq inch, 10 parts, $30 + $10 shipping (25 for fedex)  they usually offer 10 more for 1/2 price

 

http://www.elecrow.com/  has a pretty good deal if you need ENIG finish and can wait for china shipment. good quality

 

dangerousprototypes.com has  low cost stencil available, I have never used them so can't comment on quality.

 sorry to reply you late,these days i am learning html,css and javascript,$30+$10 i think is a little expensive.from china to US,if you choose DHL is just 3days,and the freight is about 25dollars.Next time

i will try the stencil you shared,thanks

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js wrote:

Watch the blood pressure!

LOL,are you familiar with html,css and javescript?

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Plons wrote:

Thanks for the heads-up guys. Appreciated.

 

So I interconnected the designs with copper and silk (no, no silk stockings, Marilyn didn't make it), and now the design is accepted. Finally.

All that wasted energy ... oh well. I was very close to moving to another PCB maker.

 

So now I wait and see. Hope my boards will come in as rapid as yours, SavKokki !

 

Nard

 

 

Edit: for meslomp: no, Marilyn didn't want to be in silk, ....... nor copper.

On the serious side: Gerbers are vectors. Bitmap are pixels. Hence the problem.

so the problem has been finished?and what is the final price?

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jgmdesign wrote:

Semi-relative question,

 

Can anyone recommend a Board house that also does assembly?  All SMD parts.  Looking for an extra quote or two.  Domestic and foreign, not being picky.

 

I already have quotes from Advanced Circuits and finer Circuits here in the states,

 

JIm

according to my experience,pcbway do the assemble,but i didn't ever used.you can get answer from eevbolg

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robortdave wrote:

Plons wrote:

 

Thanks for the heads-up guys. Appreciated.

 

So I interconnected the designs with copper and silk (no, no silk stockings, Marilyn didn't make it), and now the design is accepted. Finally.

All that wasted energy ... oh well. I was very close to moving to another PCB maker.

 

So now I wait and see. Hope my boards will come in as rapid as yours, SavKokki !

 

Nard

 

 

Edit: for meslomp: no, Marilyn didn't want to be in silk, ....... nor copper.

On the serious side: Gerbers are vectors. Bitmap are pixels. Hence the problem.

so the problem has been finished?and what is the final price?

$26 in total.

$13 for the PCB's, $11 for shipping by HongKong Post (15 to 30 workdays),  and $2 for PayPal-fee.

 

I sent the same design, except that for the accepted one I added silly interconnects and silk-lines. Just to make it "one design".

A waste of time and effort. That is apparently the price for low-cost PCB-making.

 

So now I wait smiley

A GIF is worth a thousend words   She is called Rosa, lives at Mint17.3 https://www.linuxmint.com/

Dragon broken ? http://aplomb.nl/TechStuff/Dragon/Dragon.html for how-to-fix tips

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Well I just sent in three emails for three sets of boards, with one requiring assembly from a BOM to http://www.sky-macau.com/PCB_Ser....  I asked for a quotation hopefully I will get one as their website makes no mention of providing quotations for production.

 

 

Wait and see I guess.

 

JIm

If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue! - Kartman

Please Read: Code-of-Conduct

Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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Jim,

 

I discussed my requirements with "Derek" before getting his price and giving him the go ahead. He was pleasant to negotiate with.

 

Cheers,

 

Ross

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

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