USBtinyISP vs vmware

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I am trying to set up a development system as such:

 

  Windows 10 pro 64-bit Fall creators update for both host and guest

  VMware Workstation 14

 

The guest system can see an arduino plugged in just fine.

No matter what I have tried, I cannot get the guest to see a USBtinyISP. I have installed drivers on both the host and guest. Without vmware running, the host has no problem seeing the programmer. With vmware running, it's more hit & miss. With the guest running, the programmer properly disconnects from the host, but only shows in the guest as "unknown device." Occasionally, I get an error message about a driver failure in the guest, but again, it's hit & miss.

 

I don't expect that this will be an end-of-the-world kind of problem as I can always wire up a spare Arduino to act as an ISP programmer, but dammit, it's supposed to work.

 

Any thoughts?

 

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PhillipVogel wrote:
Windows 10 pro 64-bit Fall creators update for both host and guest
The current recommendation is to avoid FCU as it's a moving WaaS.

A common recommendation is to delay Windows Updates until the updates are corrected and there's a stable release or a functional RTM release or a functional milestone release; the exception to that is a Microsoft Security Bulletin (recall the lead up to WannaCry)

Another recommendation is to disable Windows 10 driver updates as these can be a PITA (why did it work last week but not this week?) (why was the functional OEM driver replaced with a defective Microsoft driver?) (a recommendation is to install only OEM drivers)

PhillipVogel wrote:
VMware Workstation 14
Instead, considered Hyper-V?

An example of Hyper-V in FCU is, IIRC, Edge web browser is now can be in Hyper-V in Windows 10 Enterprise.

A Hyper-V use case is simultaneous Microsoft Visual Studio and Atmel Studio.

Considered VirtualBox?

PhillipVogel wrote:
Any thoughts?
(from the warning track)

Considered KVM?

Virtual machines can exist via the Linux kernel and apparently with USB in the guest OS.

IIRC, a recent update of Red Hat Enterprise Linux added Windows 10 to KVM.

An instance of a Hyper-V VM can be converted to KVM.

Reason: sandbox Windows 10 via Linux device filesystem

Alternative: sandbox Windows 10 via the firewall router (not via firewall in Windows)

 


FCU - Fall Creators Update

WaaS - Windows as a Service

Stable release is Semi-Annual Channel; currently that's 1703 (Creators Update) per https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/release-info

RTM - Release To Manufacturing (ie release to OEMs)

Redstones (RS1, RS2, RS3, RS4, ...) are milestone releases

Computerworld

Get Windows and Office patched – but watch out for creepy-crawlies

Patch Tuesday brought horrors for some admins, but those problems are gone and others have abated somewhat. Still, be careful when updating this month.

Woody on Windows

By , Columnist, Computerworld | Oct 27, 2017

https://www.computerworld.com/article/3235289/microsoft-windows/get-windows-and-office-patched-but-watch-out-for-creepy-crawlies.html

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Windows 10 patches

If you’re in the unpaid beta testing phase of Windows 10 Fall Creators Update, version 1709, you’re already up to build 16299.19. Nothing you can do about it. There are plenty of problems with FCU, which I documented earlier this week. Susan Bradley added several more to the list. Of course, I recommend that you proactively block the upgrade to 1709. There's still more than three months to go before we're in Current Branch for Business territory, no matter what Microsoft calls it.

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https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/bulletins.aspx

http://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/another-win10-rant-frustration-part-2#comment-2297216

http://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/visual-studio-2015-update-1-incapacitates-atmel-studio-7#comment-1955576

Atmel Studio

Firmware Upgrade Fails on VirtualBox

http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/GUID-ECD8A826-B1DA-44FC-BE0B-5A53418A47BD/index.html?GUID-EB3C29C4-BD7B-4F5F-B3C7-0AD2026DC48A

http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/USB_Host_Device_Assigned_to_Guest

virt-p2v - Convert a physical machine to use KVM

http://www.libguestfs.org/virt-p2v.1.html

 

Edits: misnomer, sandbox, strikethrus

 

"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

Last Edited: Sun. Nov 5, 2017 - 12:29 AM