Cheapest Place to buy Atmel ICE

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What's the lowest price Atmel ICE you guys know of online? I'm shopping for one and I'm seeing $130 for the full kit as the lowest offer from Microchip.com.

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Last Edited: Sun. Oct 22, 2017 - 01:17 AM
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John Samperi

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It's been up before, but deserves repeating:

 

Study the contents of those three kits carefully before ordering! I do not guarantee that I am 100% correct on this but it boils down to

 

Content PCB Basic ICE (full kit)
JTAG-ICE - bare PCB, no housing X    
JTAG-ICE - in plastic housing   X X
USB cable (1.8m, high-speed, micro-B. This is a completely standard USB cable that you can get at you local gadget dealer for a few $)   X X
ICD cable for connecting ICE to target (10-pin 50 mil and 6-pin 100 mil connectors for target)   X X
Adapter board containing 50-mil AVR, 100-mil AVR/SAM and 100-mil 20-pin SAM adapters     X
50-mil 10-pin mini squid cable with 10 x 100-mil sockets     X
       
PRICE 55 100 140
       
"Incremental price" for the additional stuff in the Basic compared to the PCB kit   45  
Incremental price for the additional stuff in the full kit compared to the Basic kit     40

 

 

[ Sources: Atmel/Microchip online documentation here: http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/atme... ]

 

So, which one to choose?

 

IMO it is a very expensive, but still good, investment to go for the Basic kit rather than the PCB. At least if you are a serious hobbyist, and definitively if you are a professional. You want the housing. You most likely want the ICD cable - the connector at the ICE end is 10-pin 50-mil so you need that specific connector and can't fiddle up something with "standard" (100-mil) "patch/strap cables". The Basic kit is worth it's extra $45 IMO.

 

The additional cost for the full kit is more questionable, at least if you are a hobbyist. $40 for an adapter and a squid cable is a wee bit steep IMO.

 

OTOH, if you plan to work with JTAG targets (10- or 20-pin 100-mil JTAG connectors) then the adapter board will be handy. Yes, If you have the parts at home you could build your own adapter (but again you need fiddle with 50-mil connectors ). If you don't have the adapters, then it might just be worth it to spend the $40 rather than ordering parts and building it yourself. Similar for the squid adapter if you want that degree of freedom.

 

If you only plan to work with ISP/debugWire/PDI targets with 6-pin 100-mil targets then the Basic kit will do, since the ICD cable has such a connector.

 

Yes, it's a jungle!

 

I would expect the prices at e.g. DigiKey or Mouser to be representative of what you would expect anywhere. Possibly much higher at some places, but definitively not more than a few $ at best. Face it - this is what they cost. (IMO the investment is a really good one anyway!)

 

Again, no guarantees that all this is 100% correct. Do your own homework and due diligence. (If you find any errors or important omissions in this post, please let me know and I'll correct it.)

 

HTH!

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The High Septon wrote:
I'm shopping for one and I'm seeing $130 for the full kit as the lowest offer from Microchip.com.
Get it while you can (extremely low stock)

http://new.microchipdirect.com/product/search/all/ATATMEL-ICE

 

"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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Very informative answers, thanks.

 

Since i'm using a standard 6-pin debugWire interface on my board the Basic will suit my needs nicely. 

 

$90 seems to be the best price, available direct from Atmel (link in gchapman's post).

Last Edited: Sun. Oct 22, 2017 - 01:54 AM
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These days the real money seems to be made on plastic cases. The complex, hi-end electronic guts barely have as much clout.

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If you can wait ~1y, it seems that development tools have significant "sales" every now and then, or are offered as "giveaways" at local training classes whose overall cost is way below the tool cost.

(at least, Atmel did that, and Microchip had some sales shortly after the acquisition.  It's not particularly predictable, locations and actual tool are somewhat random, and sometimes the tools are previous-generation.   I think the last AVR training class I saw was $49 and giving away a JTAG-ICE3 plus an Xplained Mini 328p, and was titled "Advanced Arduino Debugging."   https://www.eventbrite.com/e/adv...

 

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It is always worth checking local Distributors.    You often find that Digikey, Farnell etc have competitive prices.  And most importantly 24 hour free delivery.

 

Whatever "special offer" Microchip Direct might have,   you generally get stung by delivery charges.

 

Yes,   a local "Training class" often provides free hardware.    If you live near one of these classes it is very worthwhile.    You learn something and get a free lunch too.     On the other hand,   you might have to wait for a year or find that the nearest venue is in a different country.

 

If you are buying an ATMEL-ICE,  I strongly advise Basic or Full version.   The plastic case saves accidents.    And a ready-made ribbon cable is essential.   

 

David.

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The only thing I'll add here is that I am not a huge fan of the triple-ended cable. The way the DIP6 is added on seems really, really fragile to me.

 

I haven't done it yet, but I think I am going to design a small PCB with the 50 mil DIP-10 connector and the 100 mil DIP-6 connector on it, and make an ordinary 50 mil 10 pin IDP DIP cable for daily use. It'll probably be more clunky, but it'll be more durable, certainly.

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nsayer wrote:
... a small PCB with the 50 mil DIP-10 connector and the 100 mil DIP-6 connector on it, ...
Similar to Mcuzone's Atmel-ICE adapter except that doesn't come with the 100mil ISP connector (it's pads only)

AliExpress

Home > Store Home > Products > AVR Emulator

atmel ice adaptor 1.27 TO 2.54 AVR(ISP JTAG PDI TPI) SAM(JTAG SWD)

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/atmel-ice-adaptor-1-27-TO-2-54-AVR-ISP-JTAG-PDI-TPI-SAM-JTAG-SWD/800571_32826876052.html

 

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"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

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That AliExpress gizmo is cute, but I think I can undercut them a little just because I have some of the parts on hand already and the board I have in mind is probably only going to be $5 for 3 copies from OSHPark. On the flip side, it won't be as versatile, but that's ok with me. I put 2x3 headers on all my ISP or PDI designs, and the 50 mil 2x5 headers on all my SWD designs, so that's all I need to accommodate.

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The Aliexpress item is 10 Euros plus 24 Euros for delivery. Just like MicrochipDirect, you have to look at the delivery costs.
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However it does make something that COULD be used in production programming.
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Incidentally, there is a 5x2 0.05" to 5x2 0.1" adapter available on Ebay now.
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David.

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westfw wrote:
 "Advanced Arduino Debugging."   https://www.eventbrite.com/e/adv...

Intersting:

Microchip wrote:

The ATmega328P Xplained Mini  ... features an on-board CMSIS-DAP-based debugger

"CMSIS-DAP", you say?!

 

Now, CMSIS-DAP is an ARM thing - so is this just a mistake in the copy, or have they really applied CMSIS-DAP to the AVR ... ?

 

https://www.keil.com/pack/doc/CM...

 

Could this be a way to an open-source debugger for AVR ... ?

 

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http://www.atmel.com/webdoc/protocoldocs/pr01.html
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We use the CMSIS-DAP protocol (and have been for the last years). The AVR protocols are running in a vendor space inside the CMSIS-DAP protocol.

:: Morten

 

(yes, I work for Atmel, yes, I do this in my spare time, now stop sending PMs)

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The current Microchip by Eventbrite training with a JTAGICE3 for apparently 1USD of 10USD total in Chandler Arizona :

Eventbrite

Effortless Design Workshop: Advanced Arduino® Debugging Tickets, Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 5:30 PM

by Microchip Technology

https://www.eventbrite.com/e/effortless-design-workshop-advanced-arduino-debugging-tickets-39102117486

via https://plus.google.com/+MicrochipTech/posts/1SLwFGAU84b

 

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Last Edited: Thu. Nov 9, 2017 - 11:25 PM
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I thought that they stopped making JTAGICE-3 several years ago.

 

They must have found some old stock in a cupboard somewhere.   This looks like a pretty good way to give them away.

 

AFIK,  the JTAGICE-3 works almost as well as the ATMEL-ICE.

 

David.

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They must have found some old stock in a cupboard somewhere.

OR it's an OLD "copy and paste" flyer (you know just like the datasheets) and the attendees will get an Atmel Ice instead. devil

John Samperi

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www.ampertronics.com.au

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