Atmel ICE - Adapter from 1.27mm to 2.54mm

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Hello,

 

I would like to buy the Atmel ICE debugger but I am worried about the 1.27mm pin connector because I only use 2.54mm pin cables, are there any adapters out there from 1.27 to 2.54mm? There is a cheap, 50€ version of the ICE with no case and no cables, the version for 170€ includes a case and cables but I don't see the point to spend 120€ extra just for that.

 

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Last Edited: Wed. Aug 23, 2017 - 08:16 PM
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http://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/avr-dragon-vs-avr-ice#comment-2095001

http://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/atmelice-rats#comment-2026396

http://www.avrfreaks.net/forum/ice-header-adapters#comment-1877541

 

ARP wrote:
There is a cheap, 50€ version of the ICE with no case and no cables, the version for 170€ includes a case and cables but I don't see the point to spend 120€ extra just for that.
Atmel Power Debugger is another board that has a half-case (bottom is covered) with 100mil (2.54mm) pitch AVR pads :

Microchip Technology Inc

Microchip

Power Debugger

http://www.microchip.com/DevelopmentTools/ProductDetails.aspx?PartNO=ATPOWERDEBUGGER

 

Edit : metric units

 

"Dare to be naïve." - Buckminster Fuller

Last Edited: Wed. Aug 23, 2017 - 05:53 PM
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€170 !?

 

You're at the wrong dealer..

 

mouser.com: €120

Digikey: €120

 

I'll be the first to admit that €120 is also a bit "steep" just to get that adapter. I do recommend to get at least the middle-tier variant ("basic" @ €82) to get it housed.

 

The flat cable that comes with the €70 basic (and with the "full-fledged" €120) has a 6-pin 100mil connector. This might, or might not be enough for your needs.

 

For "low volume" work you can build your own adapter to a 10-pin 100mil connector.

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Last Edited: Wed. Aug 23, 2017 - 06:51 PM
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or use 1.27mm header on the board... easy and cheap

aliexpress has a lot

Thierry Pottier

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TPE wrote:
or use 1.27mm header on the board... easy and cheap

 

But I didn't find any pin cables which are 1.27mm.

 

JohanEkdahl wrote:
You're at the wrong dealer..

You are right, I was. Thanks a lot, but 120€ is still quite expensive :(

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Happy 75th anniversary to one of the best movies ever made! Rick Blane [Bogart]: "Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine."

 

"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington] "Words represent concepts. Use the wrong words, communicate the wrong concept." [J Morin] "Persistence only goes so far if you set yourself up for failure." [Kartman]

Last Edited: Wed. Aug 23, 2017 - 07:42 PM
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So the version for 120€ includes an adapter to 2.54mm pins, is that correct? I am also wondering if the Atmel ICE can program / debug the latest tiny generation (e.g. ATtiny816, ATtiny417 etc.)?

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ARP wrote:
So the version for 120€ includes an adapter to 2.54mm pins, is that correct?

It does include, in the form of the flat cable, an adapter from 10-pin 50mil to 6-pin 100 mil.

 

I know that this works for connecting the Atmel-ICE 50-mil to a "standard" 100-mil ISP connector.

 

Without me checking the details I am unwilling to give any other guarantees as to what programming/debugging protocols this will support.

 

I.e. most JTAG connectors are 10-pin.

 

Why don't you check the details yourself? : http://www.atmel.com/tools/ATATM...

 

If you can't find a specification on how the 50/100-mil flat cable is configures, then I could get mine out and try to work it out. Let me know..

 

ARP wrote:
I am also wondering if the Atmel ICE can program / debug the latest tiny generation (e.g. ATtiny816, ATtiny417 etc.)?

I'd be very surprised if it didn't, since this is the state-of-the-art debugger from Atmel (Microchip). From the page I link to above:

  • Supports JTAG, SWD, PDI, TPI, aWire, SPI and debugWIRE interfaces

There are quite a few different protocols, supported by different AVR models, these days. Again, check it out for yourself. That way, no-one else can be blamed for any mistake.. ;-)

 

Happy 75th anniversary to one of the best movies ever made! Rick Blane [Bogart]: "Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine."

 

"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington] "Words represent concepts. Use the wrong words, communicate the wrong concept." [J Morin] "Persistence only goes so far if you set yourself up for failure." [Kartman]

Last Edited: Wed. Aug 23, 2017 - 07:55 PM
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The full version contains "50-mil 10-pin mini squid cable with 10 x 100-mil sockets" (http://www.atmel.com/Images/Atme... Page 7), so I guess this one is basically a 1.27 to 2.54 converter.

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ARP wrote:
I guess this one is basically a 1.27 to 2.54 converter.

You still need to sort out what 50mil pins go to what 100mil pins. It's not 1-to-1, 2-to-2, ... all the way.

See pictures in the Users Guide (here), e.g. on page 8, 9, 10, 11 and 15.

 

I'm sorry, if this sounds unfriendly, it isn't meant that way, but since there are so many different protocols, and connectors and devices the ultimate judge if that cable will work for your purposes is you. Do your due diligence, and you will not be sad because what you ordered won't fit your requirements.

 

Again, if you can not work out the pin-to-pin mapping of the cable I could check mine and come back to you. Tomorrow. It's time to go to bed here.. (-:

Happy 75th anniversary to one of the best movies ever made! Rick Blane [Bogart]: "Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine."

 

"Some questions have no answers."[C Baird] "There comes a point where the spoon-feeding has to stop and the independent thinking has to start." [C Lawson] "There are always ways to disagree, without being disagreeable."[E Weddington] "Words represent concepts. Use the wrong words, communicate the wrong concept." [J Morin] "Persistence only goes so far if you set yourself up for failure." [Kartman]

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Gerbers for my adapter board:

 

http://home.earthlink.net/~alank...

 

 

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well you do not find... 

5 sec = https://www.aliexpress.com/item/...

 

alank, clever board.... 

 

Thierry Pottier

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Is it possible to debug / program other ARM Cortex controllers (not only SAM) such as STMF4 / STM32? If that's the case the investment would be more reasonable. Page 15 (http://www.atmel.com/Images/Atme...) gives me enough information about how to connect controllers with standard protocols (TPI, ISP).

Last Edited: Thu. Aug 24, 2017 - 08:42 AM
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ARP wrote:

Is it possible to debug / program other ARM Cortex controllers (not only SAM) such as STMF4 / STM32? If that's the case the investment would be more reasonable.

 

In practical terms, I think the answer is no. Atmel Studio is configured for Atmel CPUs. If you use an IDE configured for ST CPUs, then you need to find one that supports Atmel ICE (I don't believe there are any). ST have a very cheap STLINK adapter anyway.

If you want an adapter that works with any CPU, and nearly all IDEs, then I would choose Segger JLINK. However, that is not cheap.., unless you qualify for the EDU version.

 

Connectors and accessories for 1.27mm can be found quite cheaply, if you know where to look. The cable used is .025" pitch (0.635mm), which is the same as ATA66 (80 core) disk cables. You can get 10 PCBs made for $2, so custom PCBs are pretty cheap as well. I made the one from https://atoomnet.net/atmel-ice-header-adapter/

 

There are several places selling a 10 pin 1.27mm to 20 pin 2.54m adapter, but this is designed for ARM JTAG/SWD, so might not work as a general purpose breakout. There are shops selling off the shelf cables, e.g. https://www.coolcomponents.co.uk/en/10-pin-2x5-idc-cable.html

Bob.

Last Edited: Thu. Aug 24, 2017 - 09:54 AM