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The Doobie Bros have a song for that woman.

 

LEDs - now with added phosphorus! Mmmmmm! That's great phosphorus!

 

Last Edited: Fri. Jan 30, 2015 - 06:00 AM
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Bob,

 

But women ARE a life critical part

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Kartman wrote:

 

The Doobie Bros have a song for that woman.

 

LEDs - now with added phosphorus! Mmmmmm! That's great phosphorus!

 

 

Evil Woman. But I prefer ELO's version. cheeky

 

Phosphorus: brief but bright glow.

 

Ross McKenzie ValuSoft Melbourne Australia

Last Edited: Sat. Jan 24, 2015 - 07:15 AM
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Ross - not quite. We'll see if Joey hits the jackpot. He tends to be on my wavelength (probably similar age).

 

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We'll see if Joey hits the jackpot.

With what?

 

Everyone here has essentially agreed with me that the information I was presented was/is incorrect.

Bob,

 

But women ARE a life critical part

NO ARGUMENT THERE!!!!

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Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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Damn this dodgy forum - it's lost posts again. Probably alongside Jimmy Hoffa.

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Kartman wrote:

Damn this dodgy forum - it's lost posts again. Probably alongside Jimmy Hoffa.

Indeed. Now we'll never know why there would be an anvil in a coal mine.sad

 

Quebracho seems to be the hardest wood.

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The topic is about LED's, not music or forging instruments.

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Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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jgmdesign wrote:

The topic is about LED's, not music or forging instruments.

Sorry. I agree with the others. She doesn't know her gallium arsenide from her elbow. Don't be led astray.

Quebracho seems to be the hardest wood.

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Sorry. I agree with the others. She doesn't know her gallium arsenide from her elbow. Don't be led astray.

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I was not led(no pun) anywhere, and was willing to argue the point.  Problem is that I did not want to get into an argument in front of a new vendor.  I did send an email to the rep yesterday regarding the whole thing.  We will see what the response is tomorrow.

 

Jim

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Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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They should rig the forum software so a dude that makes a post cant moderate the thread. Of else rig the forum software so if a modeator makes a post, all the non moderators can just delete his posts willy nilly. It really burns me. Free speech and all that. I'd appreciate it if you just don't delete any more of my messages, including this one.

 

 

Imagecraft compiler user

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Then stop making ridiculous sexist posts like the one you have above.  And which started the thread to derail.  If you cannot contain your antiquated rantings then kindly go find someplace that will feed you.  The question was to confirm what I already knew, NOT about the gender that YOU jumped all over, nor music that Kartman for some reason felt needed to be used as a gender smack.

 

I'd appreciate it if you just don't delete any more of my messages, including this one.

I have to agree with you on this to an extent.  After I pruned off the six or so not on topic, musical posts I thought about it and in retrospect I should have had another moderator get out the scissors,  only problem with that is the fact that the forum software is prone to delete a post that nay have had relevance to the thread and would have been caught up in the mess.  For that I erred.

 

The extent is that as long as your messages are relevant to the topic and not your garbage that you seem to like to inject then they stay.  But if I get a complaint, it will be looked into and as others have done, will be edited, or deleted.  Take it up with the Admin otherwise.

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Atmel Studio6.2/AS7, DipTrace, Quartus, MPLAB user

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This quote right here is too hot headed to come from a moderator: "not your garbage that you seem to like to inject".

 

Imagecraft compiler user

Last Edited: Sun. Jan 25, 2015 - 06:59 PM
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Knock it off Bob.

"Experience is what enables you to recognise a mistake the second time you make it."

"Good judgement comes from experience.  Experience comes from bad judgement."

"When you hear hoofbeats, think horses, not unicorns."

"Fast.  Cheap.  Good.  Pick two."

"Read a lot.  Write a lot."

"We see a lot of arses on handlebars around here." - [J Ekdahl]

 

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Well OK then Bob, you have managed to hijack yet another thread again, so go ahead have your way.  You're not worth the blood pressure.

 

 

If you want a career with a known path - become an undertaker. Dead people don't sue! - Kartman

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Never argue with a girl pretending to be a field service engineer.   If LEDs started as blue our Norwegian cousins wouldn't have waited so long to give the Nobel to the blue LED's inventor.  However, in the event that the field service engineer is smarter than you and can technobabble rings around your technobabble, then it would probably be a good idea to just be quiet and take notes.
 

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just be quiet and take notes.

...recording, if possible, and use them as black mail to get very cheap PCB prices.... devil

John Samperi

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www.ampertronics.com.au

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I don't know where the 'gender smack' from my side came from. The title "What a fool believes" does not specify gender. I'm a tad displeased my ethics are called into question.

In regards to the posted issue, I would've let it ride unless it was going to cause a problem. Leds could be made from pixie dust for all they know, but does that affect the outcome apart from being technically incorrect?

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I don't know where the 'gender smack' from my side came from. The title "What a fool believes" does not specify gender. I'm a tad displeased my ethics are called into question.

Nowhere in your post was a song title mentioned, other than saying that they had a song for that woman.  I said nothing about ethics, just felt it was an unneeded shot

 

In regards to the posted issue, I would've let it ride unless it was going to cause a problem.

And thats exactly what I did, as it really had nothing to do with the topic at hand....much like the doo-doo that was unnecessarily added to this thread, which as noted was intended  to reinforce what was already known. 

 

Whatever, it is apparent that no matter what the topic, eventually it gets turned into something completely different, so why bother.

 

Oh, by the way, BOB, I thought your idea about Moderators not being able to edit their own threads was a good idea so I posted it to the Admin for possible implementation.  No sarcasm there, I do think it is a good idea.

 

Peace.

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Sheesh.  As we learned that blue=>white by addition of other phosphors (right?), it might be that the person didn't fully understand about "all" LEDs being born of the same race.  The blue=>white was unknown and interesting to me.  And the person might have been told that "fact" by someone else.

 

If it were me and I was in a decent mood that day, I might have made a mild rebuke/rejoinder.  "Wow, I never heard of that.  It doesn't sound quite right given the different wavelengths and voltage drops.  I'll have to look into that.  Wanna bet a cold one the next time we are out to lunch?"

 

 

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Seems a racially charged topic to me. Are we to discriminate between white and colored LEDs?

 

(Just ignore the brat.)

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Measure twice, cry, go back to the hardware store

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Hey, it was >>me<< that played the race card.  Lemme see now...

 

Blue LEDs are of the Smurf race. (or CookieMonster)

Green LEDs are of the Kermit race.

Yellow LEDs are of the SpongeBob race. (or BigBird)

Red LEDs are of the Elmo race.

...

 

No, wait--all LEDs are of the Teletubbie race...

 

 

 

 

You can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

I've never met a pig I didn't like, as long as you have some salt and pepper.

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Just happened to come across this thread in my random clicking and was surprised to see where it went.  I understand that threads can go off topic once in a while but for a topic to get dragged so far off course that it no longer provides any value is not good (I do understand that jokes sometimes compound).  It's especially bad when posts start including gender-related opinions (we've all been misinformed or wrong in our jobs).

 

Keep in mind that it's within a moderator's right to prune a thread to keep it on topic for whatever reasons (this is why we have moderators).  I also understand free speech but if the ethics of the posts are in question then action probably should be taken.  It's also within an OP's right to steer the conversations back on course.

 

This is supposed to be a community of highly-technical and intelligent minds helping each other.  I think that's why I was so surprised at what I saw.

 

It's things like this that get threads locked.

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The thread started off wobbly and rattled itself to bits. In retrospect, it shouldn't have found its way onto a forum. Since i implied the woman is question was being foolish - which it being technically correct in the use of the word 'foolish' i get labelled with making a 'gender slap'. Had i used 'person', maybe i could've dodged that bullet. I didn't name the gender in the first place but merely carried on the reference.
If the problem was posed in a Dilbert comic, it would've been funny - the basis being a common human foible. In a real situation you have two main directions - either gently correct the person or let it slide (was it really an issue what the person thought leds were made of?) if Dilbert shrugged of such a conundrum, then that day's comic strip would be dead in the water.
I'd suggest the lesson of the day is not to post moral conundrums on a technical forum. Yes, we're highly technical and adept at solving technical problems. Next time the moral meter is in the red, i'll stay far away.

What is a 'gender slap' anyways? A euphemism for a more common form of slap? One would suggest the common form could be equally applied but changing the word to 'gender' changes the whole intention to me being sexist. That was never my intention and i reject the implication. Or am i being foolish?

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Mayhaps when one locks a thread due to perceived upsetting comments, the surpressed comments should be restored so others reading the thread learn a lesson in what flies and what doesnt. This thread would have a somewhat lighthearted excursion into what song lyrics strike a chord with two or three generations of engineers from several continents. Somewhat interesting from a sociological perspective. My opinion.

 

Imagecraft compiler user

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The "gender slap" was slight but was a bit derogatory (and not made by Kartman).  This was confirmed by a fellow female coworker.

 

If the thread stayed off topic but remained friendly, then it could have been split into another topic to carry on the fun.  But once the off-topic posts start becoming negative, and backlash focused on pruning arises, it's time to shut it down.

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then it could have been split into another topic

Do you have the magic incantation on how to do this? (more off topic off course...) 

 

Whenever I have tried to split a thread it inevitably goes into a black hole, never to be found, so I don't do any splitting any more. smiley

John Samperi

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www.ampertronics.com.au

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I was able to split the topic but here's what happened:

 

  1. The resulted in the creation of a new topic without a title.
  2. The old topic disappeared from the forum (but I was able to find it via My Overview).
  3. I had to add a title to the newly created split topic.
  4. I had to post a reply to the missing original topic in order to make it appear in the forum again.

 

We are working on greatly improving the moderator features as I type this (well, not exactly right now but you get the idea).

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I was able to split the topic but here's what happened:

Wow you were brave to attempt a split! As you'll have read  elsewhere none of the moderators dare to try Split any ore as it generally ends up with the database FUBARd.

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  2. The old topic disappeared from the forum (but I was able to find it via My Overview).

It's actually good that you have experienced some of the issues we (moderators) have. As you'll also have read extensively the spam reporting stuff is not fit for purpose either. I would priortise fixing these kind of things and leave any "eye candy" issues for another day. It's more important the fundamental tools that let the board function are implemented and working first.

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There aren't any eye candy updates on the priority list right now (unless eye candy is required to fix something that is broken).  We are working on a much better way to moderate.

 

The moderation fixes will include better spam handling/moderation also.

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Last Edited: Fri. Jan 30, 2015 - 08:49 PM